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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10650 on: September 26, 2015, 12:05:03 PM »
Many, but not all profs give the royalty to charity.

I am a prof and never adopt a new edition until it at least one year old so students can buy it used. If it's brand new, they do not have any options and have to pay $120-150 for the new text. When I do this, I get some serious resistance from the bookstore. They call me like 3 times before the order is filled. "Don't you know there is a new edition? Would you like us to order the new edition? I can't guarantee that I can get enough copies of the old textbook to the bookstore and some students might not be able to get a book." My response, is "Yes, I know there is a new edition. No do I not want the new edition. Students know how to order books on-line." 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10651 on: September 27, 2015, 02:12:00 PM »
One of my employees in our high cost of living area has student loans (her job does not require a degree), of some amount and lives at home. She orders a salad for lunch from the local pizza joint for lunch every single day. In the last 6 months she has been in 4 weddings complete with expensive bridesmaids dresses etc., and has traveled to 4 locations for bachelorette parties. Twice to Las Vegas (cross country), once to New Orleans, and once to Austin to stay in hotels (at least they share rooms), and drink at bars all night long. When asked about why she would spend all that money traveling just for the bachelorette parties, she replied that she has FOMO (fear of missing out). She currently makes under $36K per year here at work and also works at a bar 1 night a week. I cannot imagine.

So I make more than this girl does, but when I'm asked to be part of a wedding, I go all in.  Thus far I've been in my own (haha) and a MOH in another.  So if I'm a bridesmaid I will be at the shower and the bachelorette barring some crazy unforseen circumstances.  Also, I"m guessing this girl didn't get to plan the events, so couldn't control costs from the start.  But I would have done the same thing, and chalked it up to an expensive year.  I would think this could never happen again...I mean how many times does one person end up in 4 weddings in one year?  Although she probably could have limited the eating out while traveling, number of drinks each night, and looked for deals on flights; based on you posting about her here, I'm guessing she didn't do any of that.  And the salad thing is dumb.  But a lot of these events are literally once in a lifetime (I hope everyone she knows stays married), so I would also have FOMO.  But maybe I'm just young and dumb.

When I was young and getting married...we didn't do dumb stuff like have destination weddings AND destination bachelorettes.  Which is totally the thing now.

Of course, I got married where I lived, which required family to travel.
My 3 unmarried bridesmaids/ groomsman got married where I had to travel (because by then I'd moved cross country, and they got married in NY, NM, and CA).
But they didn't have destination bachelorette parties.

Now get off my lawn. Ha!

Just to clarify:  The girl in the story may be going to actual destination bachelorettes.  I hosted one but drove everyone there and asked for $60 to cover lodging and food for the bride for the entire weekend.  I think it was pretty MMM since there's the same 10 bars within an hour of where we live, and we'd definitely run into relatives of someone and awkwardly say hi-getting away is the only great choice.  But for all of my other friends, I will travel hundreds of miles for their weddings and bachelorettes, because they're far away.  Not because they're doing some crazy destination thing, but because I will need to travel to them.  But I agree-this new destination everything trend is ridiculous, especially when the bride/groom already live in a city and therefore have a nightlife to go to for a bachelorette (if that's their thing).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10652 on: September 27, 2015, 06:15:22 PM »
Overheard not at work, but on Facebook:

-A young couple with one baby paying $3,000 in RENT per month for a large townhome

-Another young couple who just bought a brand-new, custom-built home, but have plans to redo the entire kitchen because "we don't like it"

WHUUT

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10653 on: September 27, 2015, 06:19:23 PM »
Overheard not at work, but on Facebook:

-A young couple with one baby paying $3,000 in RENT per month for a large townhome

-Another young couple who just bought a brand-new, custom-built home, but have plans to redo the entire kitchen because "we don't like it"

WHUUT
Depending on the area, $3000 in rent isn't too bad.
My girlfriend and I pay $2800 for a very nice one-bedroom in Jersey City, and fancier ones exist in the area (not to mention Manhattan).
We could have found a cheaper place, but we spend a lot of time at home so it's a worthwhile expense for us.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10654 on: September 27, 2015, 09:02:36 PM »

Make my line item on the budget - jewelry and gemstones, at least they don't depreciate and you can often get them at 0% interest. Currently, I am in severe withdrawal mode, no new purchases unless I can pay cash.


If you buy it when gold is $1800+ an ounce and sell it at $1100- an ounce it sure does depreciate.
Plus, if you are buying it retail you are unlikely to get a retail price when you sell it, so, in effect, it does depreciate as well.   Obviously, if you are buying a Lalique item, the above comments don't apply.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10655 on: September 27, 2015, 09:43:29 PM »
Many, but not all profs give the royalty to charity.

I am a prof and never adopt a new edition until it at least one year old so students can buy it used. If it's brand new, they do not have any options and have to pay $120-150 for the new text. When I do this, I get some serious resistance from the bookstore. They call me like 3 times before the order is filled. "Don't you know there is a new edition? Would you like us to order the new edition? I can't guarantee that I can get enough copies of the old textbook to the bookstore and some students might not be able to get a book." My response, is "Yes, I know there is a new edition. No do I not want the new edition. Students know how to order books on-line."

I applaud academics who make sensible choices like this!

The last two years of my undergraduate professional degree* had NO required commercial texts. The lecturers had all authored extended lecture notes that were either printed at a little above cost price (somewhere between $7 and $15) or available as pdf. They were designed to be used for the course but also as references in the first few years post graduation to save on the cost of purchasing a reference library in the first few years after graduation. I used some of them extensively for the first five years or so, until I suspected the content wasn't sufficiently current. Some of them were over 500 pages in length and were probably the culmination of a decade's worth of writing, editing and re-editing at the end of each year.


* There's definitely some culture differences here in Australia- lots of professional qualifications can be obtained with a long double-major undergraduate degree. Mine was a five-year double major.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10656 on: September 27, 2015, 11:06:31 PM »
-Another young couple who just bought a brand-new, custom-built home, but have plans to redo the entire kitchen because "we don't like it"

WHUUT
A bunch of my co-workers treat everything as disposable. It drives me crazy.

The rhetoric always revolves around 'deserving to have nice things'. I understand that it is nice to be surrounded by nice things but I don't get the churn. Never mind the financial impact of replacing furniture every few years, the environmental impact is horrific.

One co-worker purchased bar stools 18 months ago and is now replacing them because they aren't the right 'style'. They cost $600 new and now can't find a buyer at $80.

I also understand wanting to redo a kitchen if it isn't well designed but I wouldn't be able to bring myself to rip out a new kitchen and replace it. Besides the enormous waste of resources, I'd be paying for a new kitchen twice. I'd rather not buy the house and build from scratch or find a home that has a kitchen in a condition and actually warrants a renovation (and has a purchase price that reflects the work required).

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10657 on: September 28, 2015, 10:51:16 AM »

One co-worker purchased bar stools 18 months ago and is now replacing them because they aren't the right 'style'. They cost $600 new and now can't find a buyer at $80.

This is the most crazy thing about owning a home, imo. I am looking for patio furniture and it's insane how much things cost. I'm more willing to put folding chairs until I find the right price, I'm not going to pay full retail just so it looks cool. Price and comfort are the only things I care about when it comes to furniture. I was lucky in that my parents had a porch full of couches that were just collecting dust that they were happy to donate to me, and that my former roommate had a perfectly good wood dinner table that he was going to sell and that he just gave me as a "house warming present."

You might think that since I saved the cost of couches, recliner, and dinner table/chairs, that I might splurge on a coffee table and patio furniture..think again :-)!

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10658 on: September 28, 2015, 11:21:36 AM »
Re: textbook conversation:  I've had profs at my community college and again at private U be very supportive of students sharing textbooks and taking the cheapest route.

I've learned to wait a good week into classes to verify that we really need the textbook, then I ask if I can use an older edition.  Usually that's a yes and it's no trouble. The one instance it wasn't ok the prof loaned me an extra copy they had.

I've done a couple kindle versions on my phone.  Considered getting a kindle just to reduce backpack weight, but it didn't make sense this semester. Kindle versions are usually images of the pages, not formatted for e reading. I've only viewed them on my phone and computer but for a large text book with multiple columns of text that is ridiculously uncomfortable and difficult to read. Not user friendly at all.

I did one time get a free preview of a kindle textbook for an online class. I completed the entire class in the 7 day preview. I was not going to spend that $70. Hah.

Overheard:  "Not having a bank is so much more difficult than I thought.  I can't buy anything online."

I hardly ever bought a book in college. After the first class i would set down with the professor and ask questions to decide if i needed the book or not.

Can we use it on the tests and quizes? If no, no way im buying it. If yes, I'm buying the old edition.
Do the homeowrk problems come from the book or do you make them up? If they come from the book I would find a library copy and make copies of all the problem pages. Or get them from a friend.

A few of my professors thought I was annoying but most thought it was great I was being so resourceful. When I graduated one of professors came up and talked to my dad to tell him I was the only student he has ever had who refused to buy the book if I could use it on the test. Most student just buy the book by default.

Overall, my grade probably could have been better but like my grandpa taught me, "What do you call a doctor that got all C's and D's? ... Doctor"
I went to college in the 80's but the way they had it in college, you could sell your textbook back to the store after you were done with it. So when you were buying books for the semester, there was a certain amount of used you could buy, and then some new. Most of the books I got were used, with a few new if say it was a new edition for the class or they ran out of used textbooks. I remember my professors were in general pretty sensitive about not having their students incur high costs for the class, but most classes did require a textbook.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10659 on: September 28, 2015, 11:43:18 AM »
Many, but not all profs give the royalty to charity.

I am a prof and never adopt a new edition until it at least one year old so students can buy it used. If it's brand new, they do not have any options and have to pay $120-150 for the new text. When I do this, I get some serious resistance from the bookstore. They call me like 3 times before the order is filled. "Don't you know there is a new edition? Would you like us to order the new edition? I can't guarantee that I can get enough copies of the old textbook to the bookstore and some students might not be able to get a book." My response, is "Yes, I know there is a new edition. No do I not want the new edition. Students know how to order books on-line."

I applaud academics who make sensible choices like this!

The last two years of my undergraduate professional degree* had NO required commercial texts. The lecturers had all authored extended lecture notes that were either printed at a little above cost price (somewhere between $7 and $15) or available as pdf. They were designed to be used for the course but also as references in the first few years post graduation to save on the cost of purchasing a reference library in the first few years after graduation. I used some of them extensively for the first five years or so, until I suspected the content wasn't sufficiently current. Some of them were over 500 pages in length and were probably the culmination of a decade's worth of writing, editing and re-editing at the end of each year.


When I went to school, the professors were never that nice, but the worst one easily stands out.  On top of having to get a new book (that actually stated the school and semester for the book so no used market at all for $125 from the school bookstore), we also had to purchase the professor's notes so stuff he couldn't cover in class was still covered incase it made it on the test ($40 from bookstore A) and a copy of the professor's lecture slides that we were required to use for taking notes on($50 from Bookstore B), the professor actually had TA's circling that would call you out if you used a normal notebook or laptop for taking notes - they had to be on his purchased slide printouts. 

So after hosing us for over $200 already, he also was "generous enough" to release his "test review notes" ($25 per test for the first 2 test and $50 for the final, only at Bookstore C) that was just his slides with notes on what would be on the test that year.  I could have just bought that, split the cost with a couple people and never had to go to his class.

Also, all these items had to be "pre-ordered" before the school year started so we couldn't get one and decide if the entire group needed their own copy (like the slides) or if we could just share one (everything else).  Also, the book was never used except for 1 question that changed each year to ensure people bought the new book.  But since it changed for each school and each semester, you can't sell it back to anyone.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10660 on: September 28, 2015, 11:45:11 AM »
Christ, what an asshole.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10661 on: September 28, 2015, 11:49:05 AM »
Many, but not all profs give the royalty to charity.

I am a prof and never adopt a new edition until it at least one year old so students can buy it used. If it's brand new, they do not have any options and have to pay $120-150 for the new text. When I do this, I get some serious resistance from the bookstore. They call me like 3 times before the order is filled. "Don't you know there is a new edition? Would you like us to order the new edition? I can't guarantee that I can get enough copies of the old textbook to the bookstore and some students might not be able to get a book." My response, is "Yes, I know there is a new edition. No do I not want the new edition. Students know how to order books on-line."

I applaud academics who make sensible choices like this!

The last two years of my undergraduate professional degree* had NO required commercial texts. The lecturers had all authored extended lecture notes that were either printed at a little above cost price (somewhere between $7 and $15) or available as pdf. They were designed to be used for the course but also as references in the first few years post graduation to save on the cost of purchasing a reference library in the first few years after graduation. I used some of them extensively for the first five years or so, until I suspected the content wasn't sufficiently current. Some of them were over 500 pages in length and were probably the culmination of a decade's worth of writing, editing and re-editing at the end of each year.


When I went to school, the professors were never that nice, but the worst one easily stands out.  On top of having to get a new book (that actually stated the school and semester for the book so no used market at all for $125 from the school bookstore), we also had to purchase the professor's notes so stuff he couldn't cover in class was still covered incase it made it on the test ($40 from bookstore A) and a copy of the professor's lecture slides that we were required to use for taking notes on($50 from Bookstore B), the professor actually had TA's circling that would call you out if you used a normal notebook or laptop for taking notes - they had to be on his purchased slide printouts. 

So after hosing us for over $200 already, he also was "generous enough" to release his "test review notes" ($25 per test for the first 2 test and $50 for the final, only at Bookstore C) that was just his slides with notes on what would be on the test that year.  I could have just bought that, split the cost with a couple people and never had to go to his class.

Also, all these items had to be "pre-ordered" before the school year started so we couldn't get one and decide if the entire group needed their own copy (like the slides) or if we could just share one (everything else).  Also, the book was never used except for 1 question that changed each year to ensure people bought the new book.  But since it changed for each school and each semester, you can't sell it back to anyone.

Yeah I had a professor that was a dick about his textbook. He told me once when I mentioned that there are cheaper versions of the same textbook that, "Well it's only $200 when you're spending a fortunate in tuition." To which I mentioned, "Please tell that to my roommate that works 30 hours a week to pay for living expenses, he's on a scholarship, but only $200 means a week of working at Jimmy John's..if he's lucky and people actually tip him." That shut him up.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10662 on: September 28, 2015, 11:06:23 PM »
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I like spin class.  But it's included in my gym membership.

When I saw "spin class" I thought it was a how-to for Whirling Dervishes.
Too much PBS TV for me I guess (free OTA TV of course).

Didn't know that stationary bikes had a "class" and was a thing.

When I teach a spinning class, the students go home with the ability to make their own knitting yarn. I was distinctly confused the first time I heard spinning to mean stationary bike. I'm sure stationary bike people are confused by me too, but spinning meant "making yarn" before it meant "pretending to ride a bike."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10663 on: September 29, 2015, 07:33:59 AM »
As much fun as it is to mock spin classes, they are a really good workout. I know a few people that attend regular classes held at their gym...

Come to the hilly south and go bike riding with me. ;)

Not very safe after dark (cars) and riding in the winter isn't much fun (windchill)...

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10664 on: September 29, 2015, 08:04:50 AM »
I am looking for patio furniture and it's insane how much things cost. I'm more willing to put folding chairs until I find the right price, I'm not going to pay full retail just so it looks cool.

I inherited my grandparents' patio furniture. Its made of plain steel materials like square steel stock, round steel rod, and steel mesh. There was once a patio table and four chairs in the set as I recall but they were sold in a garage sale along the way I guess as they downsized.

This furniture is from the 1970s and lasts forever - at least until your ten year old boy starts using it for vaulting. Even so a quick zap with our MIG welder mended it without a hint of a repair.

Needs a paint job next year. Original paint since the 1970s!

(I'm a buy it once kind of guy. Don't mind change occasionally but I don't like the expense of the buy and replace cycle that cheap things from discount stores leads to.)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10665 on: September 29, 2015, 09:33:31 AM »
I work from home, so technically I got paid to hear this -


Met the other new neighbor yesterday. Nice older lady (50ish I would guess) has her grown daughter and 2 grandkids living with her.

I could tell she wasn't thrilled they still live with her based on some of her comments.

She made a comment that they eat lobster. So I made a joke that at least they are eating good.

She said "yeah, they are eating good but on Nana's dime" :(

That sucks to hear.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10666 on: September 29, 2015, 09:39:00 AM »
I work from home, so technically I got paid to hear this -


Met the other new neighbor yesterday. Nice older lady (50ish I would guess) has her grown daughter and 2 grandkids living with her.

I could tell she wasn't thrilled they still live with her based on some of her comments.

She made a comment that they eat lobster. So I made a joke that at least they are eating good.

She said "yeah, they are eating good but on Nana's dime" :(

That sucks to hear.

My grandma would bakchand me if I tried to pull somthing like that. haha

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10667 on: September 29, 2015, 09:41:09 AM »
I went to college in the 80's but the way they had it in college, you could sell your textbook back to the store after you were done with it. So when you were buying books for the semester, there was a certain amount of used you could buy, and then some new. Most of the books I got were used, with a few new if say it was a new edition for the class or they ran out of used textbooks. I remember my professors were in general pretty sensitive about not having their students incur high costs for the class, but most classes did require a textbook.

Used books do cost less than new ones, but are still really expensive. I never bought a new book if I could help it, but most books still cost a hundred dollars or more. Selling them back never garnered me more than a few dollars!

Not to mention, if new editions are released, you have to buy new.  (In some classes, you could get an old edition, the information presented to learn rarely chnaged; but if a prof used them for homework sets, then the problems changed- and that didn't work.)

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10668 on: September 29, 2015, 09:47:36 AM »
One of the happiest days in college when it came to buying textbooks was realizing that you could order the international edition for way less. I would always go online to try to find a cheaper price for all of my textbooks, and actually managed to sell my international edition for more than I paid for it a semester later (would buy my math textbook for like $20 and sell it for $30 to someone who's ecstatic because the bookstore wants $60). Plus international editions tend to be paperwork, which makes it so much easier to haul around.

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« Reply #10669 on: September 29, 2015, 10:10:34 AM »
One of the happiest days in college when it came to buying textbooks was realizing that you could order the international edition for way less. I would always go online to try to find a cheaper price for all of my textbooks, and actually managed to sell my international edition for more than I paid for it a semester later (would buy my math textbook for like $20 and sell it for $30 to someone who's ecstatic because the bookstore wants $60). Plus international editions tend to be paperwork, which makes it so much easier to haul around.
This!  I did this a few times, and saved several hundred dollars in the process. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10670 on: September 29, 2015, 10:22:21 AM »
Used books do cost less than new ones, but are still really expensive. I never bought a new book if I could help it, but most books still cost a hundred dollars or more. Selling them back never garnered me more than a few dollars!

Direct sales to other students tended to work with everyone being happy at 50% of new price.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10671 on: September 29, 2015, 11:18:05 AM »
Overheard not at work, but on Facebook:

-A young couple with one baby paying $3,000 in RENT per month for a large townhome

-Another young couple who just bought a brand-new, custom-built home, but have plans to redo the entire kitchen because "we don't like it"

WHUUT
Depending on the area, $3000 in rent isn't too bad.
My girlfriend and I pay $2800 for a very nice one-bedroom in Jersey City, and fancier ones exist in the area (not to mention Manhattan).
We could have found a cheaper place, but we spend a lot of time at home so it's a worthwhile expense for us.

Exactly. Location, location, location.

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« Reply #10672 on: September 29, 2015, 11:19:03 AM »

One co-worker purchased bar stools 18 months ago and is now replacing them because they aren't the right 'style'. They cost $600 new and now can't find a buyer at $80.

This is the most crazy thing about owning a home, imo. I am looking for patio furniture and it's insane how much things cost. I'm more willing to put folding chairs until I find the right price, I'm not going to pay full retail just so it looks cool. Price and comfort are the only things I care about when it comes to furniture. I was lucky in that my parents had a porch full of couches that were just collecting dust that they were happy to donate to me, and that my former roommate had a perfectly good wood dinner table that he was going to sell and that he just gave me as a "house warming present."

You might think that since I saved the cost of couches, recliner, and dinner table/chairs, that I might splurge on a coffee table and patio furniture..think again :-)!

We found ours at Lowes or Home Depot at the end of season clearance sale. It was very reasonable.

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« Reply #10673 on: September 29, 2015, 11:29:52 AM »

One co-worker purchased bar stools 18 months ago and is now replacing them because they aren't the right 'style'. They cost $600 new and now can't find a buyer at $80.

This is the most crazy thing about owning a home, imo. I am looking for patio furniture and it's insane how much things cost. I'm more willing to put folding chairs until I find the right price, I'm not going to pay full retail just so it looks cool. Price and comfort are the only things I care about when it comes to furniture. I was lucky in that my parents had a porch full of couches that were just collecting dust that they were happy to donate to me, and that my former roommate had a perfectly good wood dinner table that he was going to sell and that he just gave me as a "house warming present."

You might think that since I saved the cost of couches, recliner, and dinner table/chairs, that I might splurge on a coffee table and patio furniture..think again :-)!

We found ours at Lowes or Home Depot at the end of season clearance sale. It was very reasonable.

Any recommendations? It's starting to get chilly so I plan to go on Sunday to take a look at what's available. I have a screened in 3 season porch. It won't be usable in winter due to it being cold and snowy, but I would like a few comfortable chairs for lounging and a table for consuming some food.

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« Reply #10674 on: September 29, 2015, 11:54:44 AM »
A few years ago one of my co-workers invited me to his parent's house for his 30th birthday celebration.

His parent's house was massive. It had 8 bedrooms and situated with a great view of the river. It had a separate suite for his grandmother that also included her own kitchen and living area plus another bedroom. I constantly marveled at the top of the line furnishings and appliances that decorated the home.

The party was catered and featured a live violinist. They probably had 20+ non-family including myself spend the night. The next morning, while eating a catered breakfast on china I had a conversation with my friend's mom. She asked about my parents and I told her that they were both retired to part time jobs but travel most of the year. She sighed, and told me "I wish I could afford to retire."




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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10675 on: September 29, 2015, 02:09:25 PM »

One co-worker purchased bar stools 18 months ago and is now replacing them because they aren't the right 'style'. They cost $600 new and now can't find a buyer at $80.

This is the most crazy thing about owning a home, imo. I am looking for patio furniture and it's insane how much things cost. I'm more willing to put folding chairs until I find the right price, I'm not going to pay full retail just so it looks cool. Price and comfort are the only things I care about when it comes to furniture. I was lucky in that my parents had a porch full of couches that were just collecting dust that they were happy to donate to me, and that my former roommate had a perfectly good wood dinner table that he was going to sell and that he just gave me as a "house warming present."

You might think that since I saved the cost of couches, recliner, and dinner table/chairs, that I might splurge on a coffee table and patio furniture..think again :-)!

We found ours at Lowes or Home Depot at the end of season clearance sale. It was very reasonable.

Same here.. Good deals available if you are willing to wait and troll each store online (different stores will have different sales depending on stock).  The stuff I ended up ordering were floor models so I negotiated an even steeper discount due to scratches (but come on its outdoor furniture so it's gonna get beat up within 1 season).  The manager has a lot of discretion and at that point just wants it out of the stkte

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10676 on: September 29, 2015, 03:33:11 PM »
A few years ago one of my co-workers invited me to his parent's house for his 30th birthday celebration.

His parent's house was massive. It had 8 bedrooms and situated with a great view of the river. It had a separate suite for his grandmother that also included her own kitchen and living area plus another bedroom. I constantly marveled at the top of the line furnishings and appliances that decorated the home.

The party was catered and featured a live violinist. They probably had 20+ non-family including myself spend the night. The next morning, while eating a catered breakfast on china I had a conversation with my friend's mom. She asked about my parents and I told her that they were both retired to part time jobs but travel most of the year. She sighed, and told me "I wish I could afford to retire."

*picks jaw up from floor*

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10677 on: September 30, 2015, 02:56:33 PM »
I am a prof and never adopt a new edition until it at least one year old so students can buy it used. If it's brand new, they do not have any options and have to pay $120-150 for the new text. When I do this, I get some serious resistance from the bookstore. They call me like 3 times before the order is filled. "Don't you know there is a new edition? Would you like us to order the new edition? I can't guarantee that I can get enough copies of the old textbook to the bookstore and some students might not be able to get a book." My response, is "Yes, I know there is a new edition. No do I not want the new edition. Students know how to order books on-line."

I taught first year Physics for a year recently at a Community College, and was asked by a couple of students on the first day of class if they would need the book during the first week.  That puzzled me, until I found out the bookstore wouldn't tell them what book was needed until the day before class, and they wanted to order it for $17 on Amazon instead of $80 from the bookstore.  I told them that was a great idea, and they wouldn't need it that soon.  I remembered way back when in Engineering school used textbooks were hard to come by, most people kept them as references, so I felt badly for them. 

On topic, at work our receptionist had to buy a new washing machine, and spent about $1000.  The thing never really worked right, and after multiple visits from a service person, she bought another, more reliable "old style" top loader, from another place, which has worked fine.  I suggested she fight to get the company to take the first one back, which the service guy also recommended, but she just finds it "too stressful" and won't bother.  I then suggested she have the girlfriend of a son, who apparently doesn't mind that kind of thing, do the arguing for a commission, but she didn't want to bother them either.  She is, however, trying to look for another part time job to supplement the receptionist thing, because she needs the income, and isn't too many years away from retirement. . . 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10678 on: September 30, 2015, 03:02:03 PM »
I am a prof and never adopt a new edition until it at least one year old so students can buy it used. If it's brand new, they do not have any options and have to pay $120-150 for the new text. When I do this, I get some serious resistance from the bookstore. They call me like 3 times before the order is filled. "Don't you know there is a new edition? Would you like us to order the new edition? I can't guarantee that I can get enough copies of the old textbook to the bookstore and some students might not be able to get a book." My response, is "Yes, I know there is a new edition. No do I not want the new edition. Students know how to order books on-line."

I taught first year Physics for a year recently at a Community College, and was asked by a couple of students on the first day of class if they would need the book during the first week.  That puzzled me, until I found out the bookstore wouldn't tell them what book was needed until the day before class, and they wanted to order it for $17 on Amazon instead of $80 from the bookstore.  I told them that was a great idea, and they wouldn't need it that soon.  I remembered way back when in Engineering school used textbooks were hard to come by, most people kept them as references, so I felt badly for them. 

On topic, at work our receptionist had to buy a new washing machine, and spent about $1000.  The thing never really worked right, and after multiple visits from a service person, she bought another, more reliable "old style" top loader, from another place, which has worked fine.  I suggested she fight to get the company to take the first one back, which the service guy also recommended, but she just finds it "too stressful" and won't bother.  I then suggested she have the girlfriend of a son, who apparently doesn't mind that kind of thing, do the arguing for a commission, but she didn't want to bother them either.  She is, however, trying to look for another part time job to supplement the receptionist thing, because she needs the income, and isn't too many years away from retirement. . .

Seriously this type of thing pisses of me off. I nearly fired our last receptionist because she would sit at her computer and not do things like this. Ok, fine, you are a receptionist largely because you don't have any initiative, I get that. But when I tell you to do something like this and you don't...because why? If you don't have a good reason, then you're fortunate you weren't axed for it. Once we got an invoice for boxes that included sales tax. As a wholesaler we don't need to pay taxes (as we are reselling them), but I was gone that week and I found out when I got back that she went ahead and paid it, because it was too much of a bother to call up the company and give them our tax ID because it was only "30 dollars" and that it was too late to try to get a refund. "Ok, in that case you won't mind if I take that $30 from your paycheck cause it's only 30 dollars." Of course, ten minutes later she came to me and said that she called the company and they were issuing a refund.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10679 on: September 30, 2015, 03:20:53 PM »
Seriously this type of thing pisses of me off. I nearly fired our last receptionist because she would sit at her computer and not do things like this. Ok, fine, you are a receptionist largely because you don't have any initiative, I get that. But when I tell you to do something like this and you don't...because why? If you don't have a good reason, then you're fortunate you weren't axed for it. Once we got an invoice for boxes that included sales tax. As a wholesaler we don't need to pay taxes (as we are reselling them), but I was gone that week and I found out when I got back that she went ahead and paid it, because it was too much of a bother to call up the company and give them our tax ID because it was only "30 dollars" and that it was too late to try to get a refund. "Ok, in that case you won't mind if I take that $30 from your paycheck cause it's only 30 dollars." Of course, ten minutes later she came to me and said that she called the company and they were issuing a refund.

I like how $30 isn't worth the effort when it's not her money. I hate it when people treat someone else's money like it's nothing.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10680 on: September 30, 2015, 03:23:07 PM »
A customer's credit card somehow got charged three times, for $10 each time.  She emails our customer service folks in a panic, because apparently she is in a very bad financial situation.  We happily refunded the two erroneous charges, but c'mon, woman, are you really only $20 away from bankruptcy?

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10681 on: September 30, 2015, 03:23:50 PM »
I am looking for patio furniture and it's insane how much things cost. I'm more willing to put folding chairs until I find the right price, I'm not going to pay full retail just so it looks cool.

I inherited my grandparents' patio furniture. Its made of plain steel materials like square steel stock, round steel rod, and steel mesh. There was once a patio table and four chairs in the set as I recall but they were sold in a garage sale along the way I guess as they downsized.

This furniture is from the 1970s and lasts forever - at least until your ten year old boy starts using it for vaulting. Even so a quick zap with our MIG welder mended it without a hint of a repair.

Needs a paint job next year. Original paint since the 1970s!

(I'm a buy it once kind of guy. Don't mind change occasionally but I don't like the expense of the buy and replace cycle that cheap things from discount stores leads to.)


The cheapest patio furniture?  Trash picked or a wooden picnic table.  We have a wooden picnic table on our deck.  It seats 6 easily, is compact, never blows away or over in the storm, and has aged to a nice grayed color that we plan to seal before winter. 

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10682 on: September 30, 2015, 09:47:08 PM »
I remember there was a stand-up comedian in the eighties who used to say...

"If you're a business major and you buy the textbook, you should fail the class right there."

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10683 on: October 01, 2015, 08:37:41 AM »
Seen at work:
Someone brought a couple boxes of Duck Donuts into the office.  I guess they are the new trendy unhealthy snack. I thought, Gee, I didn't know there was a Duck Donuts near here. I googled them, and found out that, no, there is not a Duck Donuts near here. The closest one is 11.5 miles away.

Granted, I know for a fact that people commute much farther than 11.5 miles to get here. But, that's a long way for fattening fried dough to travel. Not to mention, there are two places across the street at which to buy said fattening fried dough. But, they are not trendy enough apparently.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10684 on: October 01, 2015, 08:46:36 AM »
This is not about any individual co-worker, but just blows my mind a little.

Where I work they will start automatically put 12% of your salary into a retirement account for you after two years of employment. No match on your end, no hassle, just 12% into an account.  It is an amazing perk. After two years of work, HR will send you information to select between the various 403b company options and the paperwork to open your account. It's fast, it's easy, it's free money!

I popped in to HR recently to ask a question and in the course of our discussion, the HR rep mentioned that some (she estimated about 10%) of the employees who are eligible just never fill out the paperwork for the retirement plan and several take months to do so. WHAT?! 

That perk is the main reason I still work here. I was grandfathered in when it was still 15%. I can't imagine just not filling out paperwork that essentially gives you a 12% (or in my case 15%) pay raise.



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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10685 on: October 01, 2015, 08:53:10 AM »
Seen at work:
Someone brought a couple boxes of Duck Donuts into the office.  I guess they are the new trendy unhealthy snack. I thought, Gee, I didn't know there was a Duck Donuts near here. I googled them, and found out that, no, there is not a Duck Donuts near here. The closest one is 11.5 miles away.

Granted, I know for a fact that people commute much farther than 11.5 miles to get here. But, that's a long way for fattening fried dough to travel. Not to mention, there are two places across the street at which to buy said fattening fried dough. But, they are not trendy enough apparently.

I don't get why that is posted here. Someone brought in donuts to work as a gift to you and to his/her co-workers. Eat them or don't.

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« Reply #10686 on: October 01, 2015, 08:55:00 AM »

That perk is the main reason I still work here. I was grandfathered in when it was still 15%. I can't imagine just not filling out paperwork that essentially gives you a 12% (or in my case 15%) pay raise.

Crazy. I mean, lets' just imagine that paperwork takes at most an hour to do. 15% of let's assume a $40,000 salary means $6000. They would jeapordize this over an hour of paperwork? That's way more than M&A lawyers can currently dream of billing at.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10687 on: October 01, 2015, 09:06:06 AM »
Seen at work:
Someone brought a couple boxes of Duck Donuts into the office.  I guess they are the new trendy unhealthy snack. I thought, Gee, I didn't know there was a Duck Donuts near here. I googled them, and found out that, no, there is not a Duck Donuts near here. The closest one is 11.5 miles away.

Granted, I know for a fact that people commute much farther than 11.5 miles to get here. But, that's a long way for fattening fried dough to travel. Not to mention, there are two places across the street at which to buy said fattening fried dough. But, they are not trendy enough apparently.

I don't get why that is posted here. Someone brought in donuts to work as a gift to you and to his/her co-workers. Eat them or don't.

Agreed--Is Duck Donuts really Dunkin Donuts though? Because they're only good for coffee. Their donuts are horrible.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10688 on: October 01, 2015, 09:11:04 AM »
Seen at work:
Someone brought a couple boxes of Duck Donuts into the office.  I guess they are the new trendy unhealthy snack. I thought, Gee, I didn't know there was a Duck Donuts near here. I googled them, and found out that, no, there is not a Duck Donuts near here. The closest one is 11.5 miles away.

Granted, I know for a fact that people commute much farther than 11.5 miles to get here. But, that's a long way for fattening fried dough to travel. Not to mention, there are two places across the street at which to buy said fattening fried dough. But, they are not trendy enough apparently.

I don't get why that is posted here. Someone brought in donuts to work as a gift to you and to his/her co-workers. Eat them or don't.

Agreed--Is Duck Donuts really Dunkin Donuts though? Because they're only good for coffee. Their donuts are horrible.

Here in New Mexico they could just as easily be "drug" themed donuts based on a TV show called "Breaking Bad", which was apparently pretty popular especially since it presented a fairly accurate glimpse of life in this area. Anyway, several donut shops started making blue methamphetamine themed donuts and they're still selling well. You can't get the joke aspect from a mainstream franchise donut place, and if some co-worker has a specialty donut place close to home, maybe Duck Donuts aren't that impractical for a special occasion.

I, personally, would eat the free Duck Donut.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10689 on: October 01, 2015, 09:11:48 AM »
Seen at work:
Someone brought a couple boxes of Duck Donuts into the office.  I guess they are the new trendy unhealthy snack. I thought, Gee, I didn't know there was a Duck Donuts near here. I googled them, and found out that, no, there is not a Duck Donuts near here. The closest one is 11.5 miles away.

Granted, I know for a fact that people commute much farther than 11.5 miles to get here. But, that's a long way for fattening fried dough to travel. Not to mention, there are two places across the street at which to buy said fattening fried dough. But, they are not trendy enough apparently.

I don't get why that is posted here. Someone brought in donuts to work as a gift to you and to his/her co-workers. Eat them or don't.

It was not a complaint about the free food. I certainly enjoy free food as much as anyone. It was the distance traveled that was crazy.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10690 on: October 01, 2015, 09:14:06 AM »

Agreed--Is Duck Donuts really Dunkin Donuts though? Because they're only good for coffee. Their donuts are horrible.

https://duckdonuts.com/

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10691 on: October 01, 2015, 09:23:26 AM »
Later he mentioned his partner is getting pissy about him not having work yet. "Its a bit of a strain, but you know, I wash the floors and dishes, so I think its fair enough. I mean, he knew I was out of work when we bought the house - its just taking longer than I thought to find something. We'll work out the extra debts when I find a job."

I hate this kind of talk. If you're unemployed and not caring for a child/elderly or seriously ill, you better do ALL the housework/shopping/cooking, or at least the vast majority of it.

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« Reply #10692 on: October 01, 2015, 09:34:02 AM »

It was not a complaint about the free food. I certainly enjoy free food as much as anyone. It was the distance traveled that was crazy.

Did the person actually go 11 miles out of their way to get them though? (Since there are donuts across the street?)

Or is the place next door to their house/daycare- and totally on the way?  Without that information, distance traveled cannot be judged as crazy.

Just appreciate the free food.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10693 on: October 01, 2015, 10:46:17 AM »
This is not about any individual co-worker, but just blows my mind a little.

Where I work they will start automatically put 12% of your salary into a retirement account for you after two years of employment. No match on your end, no hassle, just 12% into an account.  It is an amazing perk. After two years of work, HR will send you information to select between the various 403b company options and the paperwork to open your account. It's fast, it's easy, it's free money!

I popped in to HR recently to ask a question and in the course of our discussion, the HR rep mentioned that some (she estimated about 10%) of the employees who are eligible just never fill out the paperwork for the retirement plan and several take months to do so. WHAT?! 

That perk is the main reason I still work here. I was grandfathered in when it was still 15%. I can't imagine just not filling out paperwork that essentially gives you a 12% (or in my case 15%) pay raise.
crazy.  My husband's company does the same, but on day 1.  And occasionally the younger guys will grumble about it (they'd rather have higher salaries).  Trust me bud, when you are in your 40's with a half a mil in  your 401k, you'll be happy.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10694 on: October 01, 2015, 11:14:17 AM »
Co-worker: As far as TVs go, I really believe you should just spend whatever makes you happy.  I have never yet heard someone say, "I wish I hadn't spent so much on my TV."

This was in the middle of a discussion about a 65inch 4k curved tv vs. the 55inch version.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10695 on: October 01, 2015, 11:28:53 AM »
Co-worker: As far as TVs go, I really believe you should just spend whatever makes you happy.  I have never yet heard someone say, "I wish I hadn't spent so much on my TV."

This was in the middle of a discussion about a 65inch 4k curved tv vs. the 55inch version.
I don't think the curved TVs are even all that nice.  It cuts down on the number of people you can invite over to watch a movie with you, since you can't fan out as much and still see the TV.  I don't own a TV at all, so maybe I'm mistaken, but that's my $0.02.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10696 on: October 01, 2015, 12:29:30 PM »
Today a coworker expressed his excitement at being moved to a different store location within the company. He explained that he currently drives 100 MILES EACH WAY from home to work. This feat takes an hour and twenty minutes each way, and requires three tanks of gas per week, which he pumps into his new truck.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10697 on: October 01, 2015, 01:07:09 PM »
Seriously this type of thing pisses of me off. I nearly fired our last receptionist because she would sit at her computer and not do things like this. Ok, fine, you are a receptionist largely because you don't have any initiative, I get that. But when I tell you to do something like this and you don't...because why? If you don't have a good reason, then you're fortunate you weren't axed for it. Once we got an invoice for boxes that included sales tax. As a wholesaler we don't need to pay taxes (as we are reselling them), but I was gone that week and I found out when I got back that she went ahead and paid it, because it was too much of a bother to call up the company and give them our tax ID because it was only "30 dollars" and that it was too late to try to get a refund. "Ok, in that case you won't mind if I take that $30 from your paycheck cause it's only 30 dollars." Of course, ten minutes later she came to me and said that she called the company and they were issuing a refund.

It pisses me off to no end too, and I have seen so damn much of it in the DoD environment that the challenge is not recalling an example but picking from so many.
For an organization full of people who rail against socialism, it is amazing how many of them piss away tax dollars like nobody's paying for it.

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« Reply #10698 on: October 01, 2015, 01:33:13 PM »
Gobsmacked - so he's out of work, living off his partner, and then he goes to buy his food at an expensive butcher and pays a premium on top of the premium price for custom cutting. Later he mentioned his partner is getting pissy about him not having work yet. "Its a bit of a strain, but you know, I wash the floors and dishes, so I think its fair enough. I mean, he knew I was out of work when we bought the house - its just taking longer than I thought to find something. We'll work out the extra debts when I find a job."

Washing the floors and dishes couldn't possibly take more than an hour a day, unless they throw dinner parties for eight every night or scrub their floors with a toothbrush.

I'd be cynically curious as to how much of a "we" was involved in buying the house, and whose name(s) is/are on the dotted line for the mortgage payments.

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Re: Overheard at Work
« Reply #10699 on: October 01, 2015, 03:37:19 PM »
I don't think the curved TVs are even all that nice.  It cuts down on the number of people you can invite over to watch a movie with you, since you can't fan out as much and still see the TV. 
I think you are supposed to buy a set for each person - sharing TV is obviously piracy.