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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #400 on: August 29, 2017, 11:45:29 AM »
More lularoe news: http://www.mommygyver.com/single-post/2017/08/27/Original-Theft  Stealing a design off Spoonflower (a fabric website), changing the colors, but leaving the original designer's watermark.

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« Reply #401 on: August 29, 2017, 12:03:10 PM »

"Friends!!! If you've been wondering why I joined Rodan +Fields Scientology and why this is such an amazing opportunity, I'd like to invite you to this amazing event! You'll hear the LIVE stories of 10 people and you WILL be inspired. You will hear stories from people like me who literally JUST joined and from those who have been in this life changing business Religion for YEARS. I'm honored and humbled because they asked ME to speak! ME!!!! Crazy right?!
Come! Listen! Be inspired! Learn! See my face! Comment below or PM if you'd like a special invite."


All I did was change two words.

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« Reply #402 on: August 29, 2017, 12:19:59 PM »
More lularoe news: http://www.mommygyver.com/single-post/2017/08/27/Original-Theft  Stealing a design off Spoonflower (a fabric website), changing the colors, but leaving the original designer's watermark.

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So what happens with the inventory already purchased by the Lularoe providers?  Will the parent company replace it, refund them, or give them the shaft?
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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #403 on: August 30, 2017, 01:23:51 PM »
Someone recently in a facebook discussion group insisted that MLMs are smart because "that's how Warren Buffett got rich".

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« Reply #404 on: August 30, 2017, 02:44:13 PM »
 
Someone recently in a facebook discussion group insisted that MLMs are smart because "that's how Warren Buffett got rich".


I guess Buffet/Berkshire owns Pampered Chef. But I think it is a pretty safe bet that PC is not the primary driver of Berkshire growth.

I see that PC websites really like to tout Buffet's name to try to get new consultants. But this is what we've always known, MLM really is a great way to get rich .... but only if you own the whole dang company.

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« Reply #405 on: August 30, 2017, 02:53:59 PM »

"Friends!!! If you've been wondering why I joined Rodan +Fields Scientology and why this is such an amazing opportunity, I'd like to invite you to this amazing event! You'll hear the LIVE stories of 10 people and you WILL be inspired. You will hear stories from people like me who literally JUST joined and from those who have been in this life changing business Religion for YEARS. I'm honored and humbled because they asked ME to speak! ME!!!! Crazy right?!
Come! Listen! Be inspired! Learn! See my face! Comment below or PM if you'd like a special invite."


All I did was change two words.

That gave me chills.

She's still mixing promotions with pictures of her kids.

Today, I'm incredibly blessed to be able to stay home with my children. I'm here for all of the big "firsts" and for all of the perfect moments in between. My face is the one my children see when they wake up. Rodan + Fields has already been life changing for me and I'm only in my first month of business, though I've been using the products for 10 months. So today, I'd like to bless YOU with a gift if you place an order today: a FREE Redefine Eye Cream ($62 value).
If you take advantage of one our amazing bundle deals happening right now, this is a savings of OVER $150! Message me to cash in on this deal! You can always just comment how adorable my sweet (baby's name) is sleeping too.

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« Reply #406 on: August 30, 2017, 03:09:49 PM »
Someone recently in a facebook discussion group insisted that MLMs are smart because "that's how Warren Buffett got rich".


I guess Buffet/Berkshire owns Pampered Chef. But I think it is a pretty safe bet that PC is not the primary driver of Berkshire growth.

I see that PC websites really like to tout Buffet's name to try to get new consultants. But this is what we've always known, MLM really is a great way to get rich .... but only if you own the whole dang company.

They acquired Pampered Chef in 2002. Buffett has been investing since the 1950s, and has been a billionaire since the 1990s. So Pampered Chef has nothing to do with his accumulation of wealth.

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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #407 on: August 30, 2017, 08:48:51 PM »
Today, I'm incredibly blessed to be able to stay home with my children. I'm here for all of the big "firsts" and for all of the perfect moments in between. My face is the one my children see when they wake up. Rodan + Fields has already been life changing for me and I'm only in my first month of business, though I've been using the products for 10 months. So today, I'd like to bless YOU with a gift if you place an order today: a FREE Redefine Eye Cream ($62 value).
If you take advantage of one our amazing bundle deals happening right now, this is a savings of OVER $150! Message me to cash in on this deal! You can always just comment how adorable my sweet (baby's name) is sleeping too.

I can imagine this appeals to people who think they're being financially smart. Saving $150! wow! And just what they need, redefining eye cream.

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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #408 on: August 30, 2017, 09:03:18 PM »
Today, I'm incredibly blessed to be able to stay home with my children. I'm here for all of the big "firsts" and for all of the perfect moments in between. My face is the one my children see when they wake up. Rodan + Fields has already been life changing for me and I'm only in my first month of business, though I've been using the products for 10 months. So today, I'd like to bless YOU with a gift if you place an order today: a FREE Redefine Eye Cream ($62 value).
If you take advantage of one our amazing bundle deals happening right now, this is a savings of OVER $150! Message me to cash in on this deal! You can always just comment how adorable my sweet (baby's name) is sleeping too.

I can imagine this appeals to people who think they're being financially smart. Saving $150! wow! And just what they need, redefining eye cream.

How did they define eye cream prior to that point?
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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #409 on: August 31, 2017, 01:39:11 PM »
I didnt read back 9 pages, did the first but by me and on my facebook it seemed like two years ago I couldnt check my FB page with out a pitch for Norwex , now the adds are even more aggressive but its all plexus. Is that an MLM? I am  just shocked how many people I know are pushing the stuff. Alot of times it seems to be the same people going from one to another or selling more than one.
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« Reply #410 on: August 31, 2017, 01:50:53 PM »
[...] now the adds are even more aggressive but its all plexus. Is that an MLM?
Yes.

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« Reply #411 on: August 31, 2017, 02:04:36 PM »
[...] now the adds are even more aggressive but its all plexus. Is that an MLM?
Yes.




Thanks, Thats what I thought. Started with one person and now at least a half a dozen. And they are intense.
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« Reply #412 on: August 31, 2017, 02:12:11 PM »
[...] now the adds are even more aggressive but its all plexus. Is that an MLM?
Yes.

Plexus has an FDA warning letter out against it. They claim all kinds of outrageous and contradictory health outcomes. Stay far, far away from it.

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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #413 on: August 31, 2017, 03:00:16 PM »
Someone recently in a facebook discussion group insisted that MLMs are smart because "that's how Warren Buffett got rich".


I guess Buffet/Berkshire owns Pampered Chef. But I think it is a pretty safe bet that PC is not the primary driver of Berkshire growth.

I see that PC websites really like to tout Buffet's name to try to get new consultants. But this is what we've always known, MLM really is a great way to get rich .... but only if you own the whole dang company.

They acquired Pampered Chef in 2002. Buffett has been investing since the 1950s, and has been a billionaire since the 1990s. So Pampered Chef has nothing to do with his accumulation of wealth.

But they must believe he started out as a Pampered Chef Consultant.

It's so sad i could almost cry.

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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #414 on: August 31, 2017, 08:35:10 PM »
Warren Buffet has never invited me to a Pampered Chef party.

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« Reply #415 on: September 02, 2017, 03:25:49 PM »
The worst thing about all the 4 people who tried to get me to MLM was that they all believe and one of them still believes that there is going to be future rewards there as long as he stays in it. The worst thing is how hard one of them is trying to get me into it. Invite me to seminars, etc. In college, a guy I was helping with an essay is the first person who tried to introduce me to it but I was a curious person in those days and I told him, you know this sounds like a pyramid scheme... Is this even legal? At that time, I thought it wasn't legal and it was super fishy. I mean pay to enter, recruit people, etc.

I had to explain to a person that I am in a career right now with future prospects. If I put in the time he puts into MLM in to my actual job and continue networking and enhancing my resume, I could be making six figures in the future. If I dislike my current company, I can easily go to another with the skill set I've acquired.

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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #416 on: September 03, 2017, 08:58:07 AM »
Warren Buffet has never invited me to a Pampered Chef party.

Me neither. I feel so hurt. :(

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« Reply #417 on: September 03, 2017, 09:24:15 AM »
The worst thing about all the 4 people who tried to get me to MLM was that they all believe and one of them still believes that there is going to be future rewards there as long as he stays in it. The worst thing is how hard one of them is trying to get me into it. Invite me to seminars, etc. In college, a guy I was helping with an essay is the first person who tried to introduce me to it but I was a curious person in those days and I told him, you know this sounds like a pyramid scheme... Is this even legal? At that time, I thought it wasn't legal and it was super fishy. I mean pay to enter, recruit people, etc.

I had to explain to a person that I am in a career right now with future prospects. If I put in the time he puts into MLM in to my actual job and continue networking and enhancing my resume, I could be making six figures in the future. If I dislike my current company, I can easily go to another with the skill set I've acquired.

The same way an MLM person can go to a new MLM with the skills they've acquired.  Skills like paying money to join, destroying past friendships in a single message, and posting on Facebook all day.  You know, highly valued life skills. 
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« Reply #418 on: September 04, 2017, 05:01:06 PM »
God these drive me up the WALL. I'm right in the prime SAHP MLM age group. Large town/Small city. So much MLM trash. I never go to any of the parties. I get FB invites ALL the time. I've started replying to a lot of them with John Oliver's MLM clip ;) Not to close friends, just the 'friends of friends' who somehow find me.

For those who haven't seen it: https://youtu.be/s6MwGeOm8iI John Oliver is always fantastic =) He swears a lot though, so be warned for 'sensitive ears'.

Oh, but you should see his piece on "retirement plans" a/k/a financial advisers and fees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvZSpET11ZY

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« Reply #419 on: September 04, 2017, 05:50:46 PM »
The same way an MLM person can go to a new MLM with the skills they've acquired.  Skills like paying money to join, destroying past friendships in a single message, and posting on Facebook all day.  You know, highly valued life skills.

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« Reply #420 on: September 05, 2017, 06:24:37 AM »
I just realized that only one letter (in the English Alphabet) separates MLM from MMM. And that one letter makes a HUGE difference in so many ways.
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« Reply #421 on: September 05, 2017, 07:42:06 AM »
Warren Buffet has never invited me to a Pampered Chef party.

I would buy some stoneware for that.

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« Reply #422 on: September 05, 2017, 07:56:12 AM »
Warren Buffet has never invited me to a Pampered Chef party.

I would buy some stoneware for that.

Seriously- I'd go to a Warren Buffet MLM any day. I'd buy all kinds of cookware, Jamberry, Younique, ugly leggings, whatever.

Think of how much the auctioned off sit-downs go with him each year.  And you get to chat with him just to buy some books, wraps, shakes, candles, whatever else home party sales sell.  :)

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« Reply #423 on: September 05, 2017, 10:13:06 AM »
........

For those who haven't seen it: https://youtu.be/s6MwGeOm8iI John Oliver is always fantastic =) He swears a lot though, so be warned for 'sensitive ears'.

Oh, but you should see his piece on "retirement plans" a/k/a financial advisers and fees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvZSpET11ZY

This video is soooo funny!!  Totally worth the 30 minutes..... now off to watch some of his other stuff.

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« Reply #424 on: September 05, 2017, 05:11:33 PM »
I just realized that only one letter (in the English Alphabet) separates MLM from MMM. And that one letter makes a HUGE difference in so many ways.
/DaytimeMusings

Blow your mind even more... MOM.

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« Reply #425 on: September 05, 2017, 06:21:32 PM »
I just realized that only one letter (in the English Alphabet) separates MLM from MMM. And that one letter makes a HUGE difference in so many ways.
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Blow your mind even more... MOM.

But O is 3 letters away.

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« Reply #426 on: September 06, 2017, 06:12:05 AM »
I just realized that only one letter (in the English Alphabet) separates MLM from MMM. And that one letter makes a HUGE difference in so many ways.
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Blow your mind even more... MOM.

But O is 3 letters away.

I cannot compute this mom joke.
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« Reply #427 on: September 18, 2017, 07:14:08 PM »
PSA:
Timeless Vie ( https://timelessvie.wordpress.com ) is one of the groups trying to bring awareness about the bad practices of MLM.
They've recently been the victims of malicious reports on facebook, and as a result their facebook page has been taken down.

There is a petition to bring it back:
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-bring-back-timeless-vie-on-facebook

They are one of the few websites trying to show the truth out about MLM and are one of the reasons I was able to see the problems when my little brother tried to get me to join his "great business opportunity". So, spreading the word if you want awareness groups like this one to survive: feel free to sign the petition.


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« Reply #428 on: September 25, 2017, 01:42:09 PM »
A good friend of ours (officiant at our wedding) sells Advocare and has invited us to multiple "events" but we always turn him down.  We have made it very clear that we will drink the shakes or whatever if he gives them to us, but we will not spend $0.01 on them.  Last week DH told me that this friend had invited us to a party at his house.  I inquired about whether it was a sales pitch and he said no.  He said he asked our friend if it was an Advocare thing and the friend said no, it was a bunch of friends coming over.  We showed up and he didn't actually lie to us - there was another Advocare seller there and he had a table set up in the kitchen, but it wasn't just an Advocare thing.  They had 4 other couples/friends there, each with a table set up selling stuff.  In their house!  The den had a lady selling clothes and bags and LulaRoe, the living room had someone selling artwork and someone selling Mary Kay, and the dining room had someone selling travel/vacation packages. 

Apparently they invited lots of friends over to "hangout" and buy stuff from their other friends.  We didn't buy anything, but it was really hard to try and stay polite, while these women I've just met are trying to sell me clothes and makeup.  That is never happening again, and DH will have to be very specific when he gets the details about future "parties"
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« Reply #429 on: September 25, 2017, 01:50:40 PM »
A good friend of ours (officiant at our wedding) sells Advocare and has invited us to multiple "events" but we always turn him down.  We have made it very clear that we will drink the shakes or whatever if he gives them to us, but we will not spend $0.01 on them.  Last week DH told me that this friend had invited us to a party at his house.  I inquired about whether it was a sales pitch and he said no.  He said he asked our friend if it was an Advocare thing and the friend said no, it was a bunch of friends coming over.  We showed up and he didn't actually lie to us - there was another Advocare seller there and he had a table set up in the kitchen, but it wasn't just an Advocare thing.  They had 4 other couples/friends there, each with a table set up selling stuff.  In their house!  The den had a lady selling clothes and bags and LulaRoe, the living room had someone selling artwork and someone selling Mary Kay, and the dining room had someone selling travel/vacation packages. 

Apparently they invited lots of friends over to "hangout" and buy stuff from their other friends.  We didn't buy anything, but it was really hard to try and stay polite, while these women I've just met are trying to sell me clothes and makeup.  That is never happening again, and DH will have to be very specific when he gets the details about future "parties"

Well, they didn't buy anything from you, either, so you should be off the hook!

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« Reply #430 on: September 25, 2017, 02:08:47 PM »
A good friend of ours (officiant at our wedding) sells Advocare and has invited us to multiple "events" but we always turn him down.  We have made it very clear that we will drink the shakes or whatever if he gives them to us, but we will not spend $0.01 on them.  Last week DH told me that this friend had invited us to a party at his house.  I inquired about whether it was a sales pitch and he said no.  He said he asked our friend if it was an Advocare thing and the friend said no, it was a bunch of friends coming over.  We showed up and he didn't actually lie to us - there was another Advocare seller there and he had a table set up in the kitchen, but it wasn't just an Advocare thing.  They had 4 other couples/friends there, each with a table set up selling stuff.  In their house!  The den had a lady selling clothes and bags and LulaRoe, the living room had someone selling artwork and someone selling Mary Kay, and the dining room had someone selling travel/vacation packages. 

Apparently they invited lots of friends over to "hangout" and buy stuff from their other friends.  We didn't buy anything, but it was really hard to try and stay polite, while these women I've just met are trying to sell me clothes and makeup.  That is never happening again, and DH will have to be very specific when he gets the details about future "parties"

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« Reply #431 on: September 26, 2017, 08:54:44 AM »
A good friend of ours (officiant at our wedding) sells Advocare and has invited us to multiple "events" but we always turn him down.  We have made it very clear that we will drink the shakes or whatever if he gives them to us, but we will not spend $0.01 on them.  Last week DH told me that this friend had invited us to a party at his house.  I inquired about whether it was a sales pitch and he said no.  He said he asked our friend if it was an Advocare thing and the friend said no, it was a bunch of friends coming over.  We showed up and he didn't actually lie to us - there was another Advocare seller there and he had a table set up in the kitchen, but it wasn't just an Advocare thing.  They had 4 other couples/friends there, each with a table set up selling stuff.  In their house!  The den had a lady selling clothes and bags and LulaRoe, the living room had someone selling artwork and someone selling Mary Kay, and the dining room had someone selling travel/vacation packages. 

Apparently they invited lots of friends over to "hangout" and buy stuff from their other friends.  We didn't buy anything, but it was really hard to try and stay polite, while these women I've just met are trying to sell me clothes and makeup.  That is never happening again, and DH will have to be very specific when he gets the details about future "parties"

It's sad that adults these days can't just get together to have fun and talk. Everything seems to revolve around sales and recruiting.

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« Reply #432 on: September 26, 2017, 09:20:47 AM »

It's sad that adults these days can't just get together to have fun and talk. Everything seems to revolve around sales and recruiting.

I agree completely.  With all of our other friends we get together and have dinner, or game night.  I had never actually met this particular friend's wife, because we always say we need to get together but anytime they invite us to something it is a sales pitch.  If we invite them over, they can't come because they have something going on with their kids.  I was starting to feel guilty about it so we jumped at the chance to go to a party at their house.  Apparently that was a bad idea.
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« Reply #433 on: September 26, 2017, 10:09:16 AM »

It's sad that adults these days can't just get together to have fun and talk. Everything seems to revolve around sales and recruiting.

I agree completely.  With all of our other friends we get together and have dinner, or game night.  I had never actually met this particular friend's wife, because we always say we need to get together but anytime they invite us to something it is a sales pitch.  If we invite them over, they can't come because they have something going on with their kids.  I was starting to feel guilty about it so we jumped at the chance to go to a party at their house.  Apparently that was a bad idea.

I hope this doesn't ever become part of my social life. I get together with friends for dinner parties and game nights and I would be pissed at all if it ever starts becoming a MLM thing. Of course I haven't been asked to buy anything from an MLM for ages, I credit it to me being honest when someone tried to pitch me, I told them, "I'm not going to buy that crap!" Felt guilty right away, but then smiled once I realized that this "friend" (more someone I know than a friend) wasn't going to bother pitching me again.

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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #434 on: September 26, 2017, 10:39:04 AM »
Some of these products I never even heard of until this thread except for Avon and Lularoe.  I see Lularoe is starting to turn on its salespeople already.



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« Reply #435 on: September 26, 2017, 10:41:08 AM »

It's sad that adults these days can't just get together to have fun and talk. Everything seems to revolve around sales and recruiting.

I agree completely.  With all of our other friends we get together and have dinner, or game night.  I had never actually met this particular friend's wife, because we always say we need to get together but anytime they invite us to something it is a sales pitch.  If we invite them over, they can't come because they have something going on with their kids.  I was starting to feel guilty about it so we jumped at the chance to go to a party at their house.  Apparently that was a bad idea.

Odd: business happens quite a bit at some of my parties, but it's not of the MLM type. Two guests, who start out as strangers but who become friendly over the course of the evening or else who know each other slightly but aren't close, suddenly realize they have an alignment of interests. One woman realized that her friend was an extremely good dog groomer, and started bringing her dogs to her. A drummer from one of my jam sessions got recruited by another guest who was putting a band together. A quilter who does longarm topstitching work for hire picked up a commission from the dog groomer. Then of course there's what I call the "gift shift": someone has something they don't use anymore, like an old chicken coop or a bunch of yarn scraps or baby clothes, who gives them to someone else who can use them. All of this builds trust, community, and social capital. Giving that up to push MLM doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #436 on: September 26, 2017, 10:45:54 AM »

It's sad that adults these days can't just get together to have fun and talk. Everything seems to revolve around sales and recruiting.

I agree completely.  With all of our other friends we get together and have dinner, or game night.  I had never actually met this particular friend's wife, because we always say we need to get together but anytime they invite us to something it is a sales pitch.  If we invite them over, they can't come because they have something going on with their kids.  I was starting to feel guilty about it so we jumped at the chance to go to a party at their house.  Apparently that was a bad idea.

I'm in a moms of multiples club, and none of the women seem to be interested at all in social gatherings, unless it involves them being able to pitch their MLM.  I'd say about 50-60% of the moms in this group are involved in MLM. They join social groups for that very purpose. They aren't really interested in making friends. Some send me friend requests on facebook as part of their MLM networking. I've never met them and don't accept friend requests from people I haven't met in person.

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« Reply #437 on: September 26, 2017, 11:08:18 AM »
A good friend of ours (officiant at our wedding) sells Advocare and has invited us to multiple "events" but we always turn him down.  We have made it very clear that we will drink the shakes or whatever if he gives them to us, but we will not spend $0.01 on them.  Last week DH told me that this friend had invited us to a party at his house.  I inquired about whether it was a sales pitch and he said no.  He said he asked our friend if it was an Advocare thing and the friend said no, it was a bunch of friends coming over.  We showed up and he didn't actually lie to us - there was another Advocare seller there and he had a table set up in the kitchen, but it wasn't just an Advocare thing.  They had 4 other couples/friends there, each with a table set up selling stuff.  In their house!  The den had a lady selling clothes and bags and LulaRoe, the living room had someone selling artwork and someone selling Mary Kay, and the dining room had someone selling travel/vacation packages. 

Apparently they invited lots of friends over to "hangout" and buy stuff from their other friends.  We didn't buy anything, but it was really hard to try and stay polite, while these women I've just met are trying to sell me clothes and makeup.  That is never happening again, and DH will have to be very specific when he gets the details about future "parties"

No, he absolutely lied to you.  These multi-sales parties are pretty common around here; but thank god my friends don't try to trick us into showing up.

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« Reply #438 on: September 26, 2017, 11:30:45 AM »
A good friend of ours (officiant at our wedding) sells Advocare and has invited us to multiple "events" but we always turn him down.  We have made it very clear that we will drink the shakes or whatever if he gives them to us, but we will not spend $0.01 on them.  Last week DH told me that this friend had invited us to a party at his house.  I inquired about whether it was a sales pitch and he said no.  He said he asked our friend if it was an Advocare thing and the friend said no, it was a bunch of friends coming over.  We showed up and he didn't actually lie to us - there was another Advocare seller there and he had a table set up in the kitchen, but it wasn't just an Advocare thing.  They had 4 other couples/friends there, each with a table set up selling stuff.  In their house!  The den had a lady selling clothes and bags and LulaRoe, the living room had someone selling artwork and someone selling Mary Kay, and the dining room had someone selling travel/vacation packages. 

Apparently they invited lots of friends over to "hangout" and buy stuff from their other friends.  We didn't buy anything, but it was really hard to try and stay polite, while these women I've just met are trying to sell me clothes and makeup.  That is never happening again, and DH will have to be very specific when he gets the details about future "parties"

No, he absolutely lied to you.  These multi-sales parties are pretty common around here; but thank god my friends don't try to trick us into showing up.

Anyone who did that to me would no longer be my friend. There are just so many better ways to entertain.

I'm also a fan of honesty in entertainment. If I'm going to host, say, a wedding shower or a baby shower for someone, I come right out and say so. People still come, because the shower events are not lame.

The last wedding shower I hosted involved team BattleShots and Cards Against Humanity. A few years ago I threw a "manly tool party" as a groom shower; I made him register at a couple hardware stores that interested him, there was a keg of beer, and on a whim I wrote "dress like a pirate" on each invitation. Most people did, and I duct taped a pirate hook to the guest of honor's dominant hand and made him open packages that way. There have been linen themed tea parties for teetotaler brides, a jam session for a musical groom-to-be, and one of the next showers I'm planning is going to be a quilting bee. Those who have sewing machines will bring them, everyone will contribute labor as opposed to things that cost money (I can find work for the non-crafters at the cutting table or the ironing board), and the soon to be married couple will end up with an awesome quilt that they get to see made.

In fairness, a MLM themed party where all the guests are MLM'ers might just constitute a "fun" theme party where they all agree to buy each other's overpriced crap. But I'd hate to go to such a thing myself; I'd feel like the only human at a vampire convention.
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« Reply #439 on: September 26, 2017, 12:08:53 PM »
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No, he absolutely lied to you.  These multi-sales parties are pretty common around here; but thank god my friends don't try to trick us into showing up.

Anyone who did that to me would no longer be my friend. There are just so many better ways to entertain.
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In fairness, a MLM themed party where all the guests are MLM'ers might just constitute a "fun" theme party where they all agree to buy each other's overpriced crap. But I'd hate to go to such a thing myself; I'd feel like the only human at a vampire convention.

Particularly if the party organizer knows for a fact you're not an MLM participant and you've expressed reservations about being around those activities in the past.  As we've discussed on here plenty of times, the business model of MLMs requires you and sometimes flat out encourages the unrepentant exploitation of personal relationships.
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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #440 on: September 26, 2017, 12:51:06 PM »
A good friend of ours (officiant at our wedding) sells Advocare and has invited us to multiple "events" but we always turn him down.  We have made it very clear that we will drink the shakes or whatever if he gives them to us, but we will not spend $0.01 on them.  Last week DH told me that this friend had invited us to a party at his house.  I inquired about whether it was a sales pitch and he said no.  He said he asked our friend if it was an Advocare thing and the friend said no, it was a bunch of friends coming over.  We showed up and he didn't actually lie to us - there was another Advocare seller there and he had a table set up in the kitchen, but it wasn't just an Advocare thing.  They had 4 other couples/friends there, each with a table set up selling stuff.  In their house!  The den had a lady selling clothes and bags and LulaRoe, the living room had someone selling artwork and someone selling Mary Kay, and the dining room had someone selling travel/vacation packages. 

Apparently they invited lots of friends over to "hangout" and buy stuff from their other friends.  We didn't buy anything, but it was really hard to try and stay polite, while these women I've just met are trying to sell me clothes and makeup.  That is never happening again, and DH will have to be very specific when he gets the details about future "parties"

No, he absolutely lied to you.  These multi-sales parties are pretty common around here; but thank god my friends don't try to trick us into showing up.

Anyone who did that to me would no longer be my friend. There are just so many better ways to entertain.

I'm also a fan of honesty in entertainment. If I'm going to host, say, a wedding shower or a baby shower for someone, I come right out and say so. People still come, because the shower events are not lame.

The last wedding shower I hosted involved team BattleShots and Cards Against Humanity. A few years ago I threw a "manly tool party" as a groom shower; I made him register at a couple hardware stores that interested him, there was a keg of beer, and on a whim I wrote "dress like a pirate" on each invitation. Most people did, and I duct taped a pirate hook to the guest of honor's dominant hand and made him open packages that way. There have been linen themed tea parties for teetotaler brides, a jam session for a musical groom-to-be, and one of the next showers I'm planning is going to be a quilting bee. Those who have sewing machines will bring them, everyone will contribute labor as opposed to things that cost money (I can find work for the non-crafters at the cutting table or the ironing board), and the soon to be married couple will end up with an awesome quilt that they get to see made.

In fairness, a MLM themed party where all the guests are MLM'ers might just constitute a "fun" theme party where they all agree to buy each other's overpriced crap. But I'd hate to go to such a thing myself; I'd feel like the only human at a vampire convention.

These are the absolute best shower ideas I've ever seen in my life.  Job well done!

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« Reply #441 on: September 26, 2017, 01:07:18 PM »
This is from Living Stingy: "Any business relationship predicated on a lie, no matter how trivial, will inevitably go downhill from there."

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« Reply #442 on: September 26, 2017, 02:16:55 PM »
This is from Living Stingy: "Any business relationship predicated on a lie, no matter how trivial, will inevitably go downhill from there."

Filed under the category of "Well, no shit."  It's sad that that statement has to be put to paper to remind folks.
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« Reply #443 on: September 26, 2017, 02:19:28 PM »


No, he absolutely lied to you.  These multi-sales parties are pretty common around here; but thank god my friends don't try to trick us into showing up.

Regarding "tricks", many of them trick people in various ways. Premier Jewelry parties, the host would promise a free gift for everyone who showed up. They had jewelry displays, but didn't want to sell any of the jewelry. The hostess even shooed people away from the table. Instead, they wanted the guests to sit down in hard, metal folding chairs and listen to a 2-hour long pitch of the business. They were recruiting. At the end, if you said you didn't want to work the business, they forced you to give the boxed gift back to them.

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« Reply #444 on: September 26, 2017, 03:24:40 PM »


No, he absolutely lied to you.  These multi-sales parties are pretty common around here; but thank god my friends don't try to trick us into showing up.

Regarding "tricks", many of them trick people in various ways. Premier Jewelry parties, the host would promise a free gift for everyone who showed up. They had jewelry displays, but didn't want to sell any of the jewelry. The hostess even shooed people away from the table. Instead, they wanted the guests to sit down in hard, metal folding chairs and listen to a 2-hour long pitch of the business. They were recruiting. At the end, if you said you didn't want to work the business, they forced you to give the boxed gift back to them.

That's horrible!!
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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #445 on: September 26, 2017, 07:01:12 PM »


No, he absolutely lied to you.  These multi-sales parties are pretty common around here; but thank god my friends don't try to trick us into showing up.

Regarding "tricks", many of them trick people in various ways. Premier Jewelry parties, the host would promise a free gift for everyone who showed up. They had jewelry displays, but didn't want to sell any of the jewelry. The hostess even shooed people away from the table. Instead, they wanted the guests to sit down in hard, metal folding chairs and listen to a 2-hour long pitch of the business. They were recruiting. At the end, if you said you didn't want to work the business, they forced you to give the boxed gift back to them.

"Oh sure. Of course you can have MY gift back. Here you g... oh whoops silly me I'm so clumsy and now it's broken."


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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #446 on: September 26, 2017, 07:32:18 PM »


No, he absolutely lied to you.  These multi-sales parties are pretty common around here; but thank god my friends don't try to trick us into showing up.

Regarding "tricks", many of them trick people in various ways. Premier Jewelry parties, the host would promise a free gift for everyone who showed up. They had jewelry displays, but didn't want to sell any of the jewelry. The hostess even shooed people away from the table. Instead, they wanted the guests to sit down in hard, metal folding chairs and listen to a 2-hour long pitch of the business. They were recruiting. At the end, if you said you didn't want to work the business, they forced you to give the boxed gift back to them.

The Premier Jewelry parties that I've attended were way more pleasant and focused on the jewelry than that!

BUT - the "free gift" is always a trick. At the ones I've been to, inside the box is a piece of jewelry that you could keep if you agreed to host a party. If you didn't want to host a party, you had to return the box/jewelry. Some gift!

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« Reply #447 on: September 26, 2017, 08:01:53 PM »
Last week DH told me that this friend had invited us to a party flea market taking place at his house. 

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Re: No, I won't buy into your MLM
« Reply #448 on: September 26, 2017, 09:03:21 PM »


No, he absolutely lied to you.  These multi-sales parties are pretty common around here; but thank god my friends don't try to trick us into showing up.

Regarding "tricks", many of them trick people in various ways. Premier Jewelry parties, the host would promise a free gift for everyone who showed up. They had jewelry displays, but didn't want to sell any of the jewelry. The hostess even shooed people away from the table. Instead, they wanted the guests to sit down in hard, metal folding chairs and listen to a 2-hour long pitch of the business. They were recruiting. At the end, if you said you didn't want to work the business, they forced you to give the boxed gift back to them.

That's horrible!!

Oh yes, it was rude, I just gave it back to them. I found out later that the gift was a cheap, stretchy bracelet with plastic beads. Crap jewelry.

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« Reply #449 on: September 26, 2017, 10:44:00 PM »


No, he absolutely lied to you.  These multi-sales parties are pretty common around here; but thank god my friends don't try to trick us into showing up.

Regarding "tricks", many of them trick people in various ways. Premier Jewelry parties, the host would promise a free gift for everyone who showed up. They had jewelry displays, but didn't want to sell any of the jewelry. The hostess even shooed people away from the table. Instead, they wanted the guests to sit down in hard, metal folding chairs and listen to a 2-hour long pitch of the business. They were recruiting. At the end, if you said you didn't want to work the business, they forced you to give the boxed gift back to them.

That's horrible!!

Oh yes, it was rude, I just gave it back to them. I found out later that the gift was a cheap, stretchy bracelet with plastic beads. Crap jewelry.

How else could they afford to hand them out as gifts?
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