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« Reply #200 on: April 05, 2018, 07:03:18 AM »
Posting to follow. Great story going on. Can't wait to see how it ends in a couple months.
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« Reply #201 on: April 05, 2018, 07:34:02 AM »
I hope they get their shit together sooner rather than later.
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« Reply #202 on: April 05, 2018, 07:56:55 AM »
Is their god also an employment counselor? Nice that god can work that in what with all the wars, diseases, natural disasters and mass shootings.
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« Reply #203 on: April 05, 2018, 08:24:58 AM »
Holy shit, this thread is comedy gold. 

I'm going to throw my hat into the ring and guess August 15th.

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« Reply #204 on: April 05, 2018, 10:32:13 AM »
Couple questions about the lawnmower, so I will answer them here:
  • We (my parents & I) believe they bought the mower secondhand, but we have no real reason to think this. At this point we just tell ourselves things to make ourselves feel better. "Well, surely they bought it used..... surely.........."

Ok, caught up.

First, I love you snarky bunch. As I was laughing at various posts, I felt a wave of affection for you all.

Second, on the bolded bit above, this made me laugh so hard because DH and I do this all the time regarding his siblings. "Surely they are ashamed to be taking money from your parents and spending it on X." "Surely they will realize that they can't keep going constantly to jam band concerts when they are just coming out of bankruptcy?" "Surely they will stop buying X..."
Surely...

Third, my bet is they will ask for more money September 1. I also bet that BIL will fail his retake of the test. I mean, I hope he doesn't, but IDK, God whispered in my ear...
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« Reply #205 on: April 05, 2018, 12:20:40 PM »
i'm going to hazard a september 15, 2018 guess - if the new opening date is in august, it'll give them just enough time to realize that they aren't flooded with enough clients to support their lifestyle yet. only temporary, i'm sure!

on the one hand, i feel kind of mean for enjoying this whole thing as much as i do -- but on the other, honestly, how can two intelligent, presumably mature adults feel so comfortable betting so much money (that doesn't belong to them!) on something so uncertain at this point? i guess that's where the religious aspect comes in.

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« Reply #206 on: April 05, 2018, 02:34:51 PM »
If August is the best-case-scenario month for an opening date, I put the "ask for more money date" at September 1st.


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« Reply #207 on: April 05, 2018, 04:10:17 PM »
I'm thinking the "ask for more money" date will be a holiday or right around one. My guess is Thanksgiving, November 22.

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« Reply #208 on: April 05, 2018, 04:18:17 PM »
I'm thinking the "ask for more money" date will be a holiday or right around one. My guess is Thanksgiving, November 22.
Labor day is September 3rd.

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« Reply #209 on: April 05, 2018, 05:03:23 PM »
I think they are going to ask for more money well before the opening, because you know, expenses. 

Fair trade chiro tables.  Organic linens.  Bleach-free business cards. 

I will guess that they will be coming up light on cashola right about Memorial Day.   

 

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« Reply #210 on: April 11, 2018, 08:40:06 AM »
I think what we (me, my parents) have realized is that they feel no heartburn about the ridiculous amount of borrowed money because the father-in-law (lender of the cash) feels no heartburn about lending it. I think it's becoming clear to us that there is virtually no risk here for them, because the in-laws will just continue to support them through any disaster that comes their way. BIL fails his boards again? No worries, just float them for another 6 months. Practice opens and not enough cash flow? No worries, just float them until they're in the black. I don't get the feeling that there's any stress from any party. It's all sunshine and rainbows over there.

They're currently on vacation for a week with the in-laws, taking a much-deserved break. They'll be back on Saturday, and then they'll be jetting off to TN on Sunday for another week-long vacation (a friend from chiropractic school is opening his practice in TN and they're going for the grand opening.) I'm thinking the first week of his practice opening might give them a look at what the first week(s) of THEIR practice opening might look like, and re-calibrate their expectations a little. I can't imagine people will be busting down the door on day 1. After that, they've got another 2-week vacation planned in June. Gotta get that R&R!

Also unclear about the status of the sister's new "job" with the spin class. Hard to lead spin classes when you're out of state for a month!
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« Reply #211 on: April 11, 2018, 08:45:57 AM »
In a good mood this morning, so here's my wish (not my prediction, my wish): that these hippy-dippy, whatevs open their business, it goes great, they pay back the loan money, everyone is happy, and we curmudgeonly skeptics are all proved wrong.

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« Reply #212 on: April 11, 2018, 08:50:16 AM »
I think they are going to ask for more money well before the opening, because you know, expenses. 

Fair trade chiro tables.  Organic linens.  Bleach-free business cards. 

I will guess that they will be coming up light on cashola right about Memorial Day.   

 

i started to laugh at the thought of fair trade chiro tables, and then realized that someone, somewhere (probably on instagram) is probably already making them. what a world.

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« Reply #213 on: April 11, 2018, 10:12:35 AM »
I think what we (me, my parents) have realized is that they feel no heartburn about the ridiculous amount of borrowed money because the father-in-law (lender of the cash) feels no heartburn about lending it. I think it's becoming clear to us that there is virtually no risk here for them, because the in-laws will just continue to support them through any disaster that comes their way. BIL fails his boards again? No worries, just float them for another 6 months. Practice opens and not enough cash flow? No worries, just float them until they're in the black. I don't get the feeling that there's any stress from any party. It's all sunshine and rainbows over there.

They're currently on vacation for a week with the in-laws, taking a much-deserved break. They'll be back on Saturday, and then they'll be jetting off to TN on Sunday for another week-long vacation (a friend from chiropractic school is opening his practice in TN and they're going for the grand opening.) I'm thinking the first week of his practice opening might give them a look at what the first week(s) of THEIR practice opening might look like, and re-calibrate their expectations a little. I can't imagine people will be busting down the door on day 1. After that, they've got another 2-week vacation planned in June. Gotta get that R&R!

Also unclear about the status of the sister's new "job" with the spin class. Hard to lead spin classes when you're out of state for a month!

That's pretty much what I assumed from this situation.

Debt is only stressful when there are consequences for that debt.
They'll only feel stress if his career really fails and his parents run out of money/will to support them. Chances are, as a medical professional, he'll do okay, and because he's not dealing with a bank, he will probably never feel the pressure that the rest of us medical professionals feel from our professional debt.

My bank won't care much about my well being if I break my arm and can't work. His dad isn't likely to demand payment if something "not his fault" happens to damage his ability to earn and he hasn't saved enough e-fund to handle it.

Daddy-debt and Bank-debt are very very different things.

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« Reply #214 on: April 11, 2018, 12:28:03 PM »
I think what we (me, my parents) have realized is that they feel no heartburn about the ridiculous amount of borrowed money because the father-in-law (lender of the cash) feels no heartburn about lending it. I think it's becoming clear to us that there is virtually no risk here for them, because the in-laws will just continue to support them through any disaster that comes their way. BIL fails his boards again? No worries, just float them for another 6 months. Practice opens and not enough cash flow? No worries, just float them until they're in the black. I don't get the feeling that there's any stress from any party. It's all sunshine and rainbows over there.

They're currently on vacation for a week with the in-laws, taking a much-deserved break. They'll be back on Saturday, and then they'll be jetting off to TN on Sunday for another week-long vacation (a friend from chiropractic school is opening his practice in TN and they're going for the grand opening.) I'm thinking the first week of his practice opening might give them a look at what the first week(s) of THEIR practice opening might look like, and re-calibrate their expectations a little. I can't imagine people will be busting down the door on day 1. After that, they've got another 2-week vacation planned in June. Gotta get that R&R!

Also unclear about the status of the sister's new "job" with the spin class. Hard to lead spin classes when you're out of state for a month!

Regardless of the money situation, I don't know if I could take multiple vacations away from not working and enjoy myself. The guilt of seeing my friends and family working full time jobs would be too much. Then again...

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« Reply #215 on: April 13, 2018, 10:13:04 AM »
Also unclear about the status of the sister's new "job" with the spin class. Hard to lead spin classes when you're out of state for a month!

God told her not to work, so I guess it's better for her to be on holiday?

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« Reply #216 on: April 13, 2018, 10:26:28 AM »
Regardless of the money situation, I don't know if I could take multiple vacations away from not working and enjoy myself. The guilt of seeing my friends and family working full time jobs would be too much. Then again...

Then I presume you don't want to FIRE?

We are weird anyway. I feel guilty when I am on an extra vacation, because there is so much to do at work. While the reason that I can take up an extra week of vacation is having a pile of overtime. I can't wait to be FI and do the following RE.

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« Reply #217 on: April 13, 2018, 10:33:56 AM »
Regardless of the money situation, I don't know if I could take multiple vacations away from not working and enjoy myself. The guilt of seeing my friends and family working full time jobs would be too much. Then again...

Then I presume you don't want to FIRE?


i assumed dabnasty meant that they couldn't see taking vacation from not working using someone else's money - if dad is supporting you, not your own job or FI, and you claim you need a vacation to get away from it all...i would have a hard time not feeling guilty about that, too!

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« Reply #218 on: April 13, 2018, 12:09:26 PM »
Regardless of the money situation, I don't know if I could take multiple vacations away from not working and enjoy myself. The guilt of seeing my friends and family working full time jobs would be too much. Then again...

Then I presume you don't want to FIRE?

We are weird anyway. I feel guilty when I am on an extra vacation, because there is so much to do at work. While the reason that I can take up an extra week of vacation is having a pile of overtime. I can't wait to be FI and do the following RE.

I have no idea what I want to do, just gonna see what happens :)

But I did mean vacation as in traveling to a place and staying in a hotel kind of vacation. Plus, even if I FIREd I anticipate "working" on projects that may or may not create income. I did question myself when I wrote this hence the "then again..."

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« Reply #219 on: April 13, 2018, 02:59:04 PM »
Posting to follow-- this whole thread had me laughing!  And terrified for this couple.

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« Reply #220 on: April 25, 2018, 11:39:50 AM »
Things are not looking up for the Future Millionaires (at least, from my perspective.) Newest bad decision is that my sister is getting wrapped up in an MLM. A chiropractor-turned-SAHM is peddling a new non-toxic makeup brand all over Facebook, and naturally my sister is getting sucked in. She's hosting a "workshop" on Facebook this week about why this makeup brand is amazing, and I'm assuming it is only a matter of [short] time before she starts buying product to sell herself.
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« Reply #221 on: April 25, 2018, 11:57:20 AM »
OMG!! Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...can you tell us the MLM brand?
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« Reply #222 on: April 25, 2018, 12:28:22 PM »
OMG!! Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...can you tell us the MLM brand?

A makeup called Crunchi, I think? I looked at their website and it actually seems like they offer a pretty nice product with truly clean ingredients (hard to find in cosmetics.) Too bad I won't support an MLM on principle.
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« Reply #223 on: April 25, 2018, 12:40:38 PM »
From afar the MLM sound hilarious. Your SIL finds a new brand, falls in love and immediately wants to get out there and teach the world about how wonderful it is.... Typical MLM I'm sure.

I have things that I'm really enthusiastic about but no public "pontificating" until after the "long term testing". ;)

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« Reply #224 on: April 25, 2018, 01:30:34 PM »
Maybe God uses Crunchi?   God did say to 'just wait' afterall.  Maybe divine makeup is what He was referring to and this astute business couple won't even have to open a clinic afterall!

All this idle time was merely part of God's plan!  Its miraculous how things work out.

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« Reply #225 on: April 25, 2018, 01:45:12 PM »
my sister is getting wrapped up in an MLM.

This hurts my head.  It makes me angry and nauseous all at the same time.
Go ahead and be financially illiterate and irresponsible - but don't commit financial suicide by getting involved with a MLM.
Why can't people do the math and come to the conclusion that MLMs are not a business to get involved with?

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« Reply #226 on: April 25, 2018, 01:48:09 PM »
my sister is getting wrapped up in an MLM.

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be financially illiterate and...
do the math...

Well there's your problem right there.

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« Reply #227 on: April 25, 2018, 01:53:24 PM »
I am so curious to see what happens with this story!  Regarding the MLM world she is being sucked in to, it's interesting that it's being peddled by a chiropractor-turned-SAHM.  SAHM because of a new child, or because the chiro business wasn't bringing home the bacon?  Do you think perhaps there's a light-bulb desperately trying to flicker on above her/their heads, and the potential to dive in to MLM territory may be their semi-realization that "Hey, maybe this first plan might not work out as originally intended (like the SAHM)..we need a back up plan?" and she's feeling some pressure to get a job of some sorts to bring in some money?  The MLM is just a misguided attempt?

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« Reply #228 on: April 25, 2018, 02:17:24 PM »
my sister is getting wrapped up in an MLM.

This hurts my head.  It makes me angry and nauseous all at the same time.
Go ahead and be financially illiterate and irresponsible - but don't commit financial suicide by getting involved with a MLM.
Why can't people do the math and come to the conclusion that MLMs are not a business to get involved with?

Why do the math when hashtags on the internet are telling you you can #beyourownboss #girlboss #beyourownCEO?

I've never understood why these women believe they are the CEO of their own company, while working for a company with an actual CEO. ??????????
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« Reply #229 on: April 25, 2018, 02:31:39 PM »
my sister is getting wrapped up in an MLM.

This hurts my head.  It makes me angry and nauseous all at the same time.
Go ahead and be financially illiterate and irresponsible - but don't commit financial suicide by getting involved with a MLM.
Why can't people do the math and come to the conclusion that MLMs are not a business to get involved with?

Why do the math when hashtags on the internet are telling you you can #beyourownboss #girlboss #beyourownCEO?

I've never understood why these women believe they are the CEO of their own company, while working for a company with an actual CEO. ??????????

It's because they have no idea what a CEO actually does. They can spell CEO, so they think that gives them business acumen. Besides, a hashtag is also called a "number sign", so using lots of them makes them think they're good with numbers.
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« Reply #230 on: April 26, 2018, 07:20:05 AM »
I just had to listen to the quarterly earnings conference call of Ford motor company for work yesterday (it's a duty I asked for because the wife owns 400 shares). Really gives you a renewed respect for how hard it is to be a CEO of a company that size.

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« Reply #231 on: April 26, 2018, 07:51:32 AM »
my sister is getting wrapped up in an MLM.

This hurts my head.  It makes me angry and nauseous all at the same time.
Go ahead and be financially illiterate and irresponsible - but don't commit financial suicide by getting involved with a MLM.
Why can't people do the math and come to the conclusion that MLMs are not a business to get involved with?

Why do the math when hashtags on the internet are telling you you can #beyourownboss #girlboss #beyourownCEO?

I've never understood why these women believe they are the CEO of their own company, while working for a company with an actual CEO. ??????????

Lol.
Iím self employed and have never referred to myself as a CEO because iím not incorporated and I donít report to a board. I refer to myself as an independent contractor for my day job, and two of my side hustles, and Iím the owner of another side hustle, although it will likely be incorporated in the future, but still wonít have a board to be accountable to, so still not a CEO and I feel no desire to be one either, and definitely no desire to pretend that I have a job title that I donít have and donít want.

That would be like me referring to myself as ďchief engineerĒ of my company just because I own it, when Iím not an engineer and never will be.

Lastly, being an independent contractor/self employed is not the same as owning a business. As mentioned above, for one job I am absolutely a business owner and I contract myself to multiple other businesses, but for another industry I just work for one company as a contractor and I definitely donít own a business, Iím just self employed on contract while working for another personís business.

The line is a bit fuzzy, but MLM reps absolutely do not seem like business owners to me. They are self-employed direct sales reps working for a corporation where the successful ones are paid primarily through a ladder kick-back arrangement through the company and not through direct sales of their products.

MLM people are free to work how they choose, but mislabeling themselves is embarrassing.
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« Reply #232 on: April 26, 2018, 09:03:04 AM »
Just seeing this thread now, and posting to follow. It certainly seems like a disaster waiting to happen, but people can always learn and change their ways, especially with a safety net like they have. How long do you figure the in-laws will bankroll their lifestyle and business before cutting them off or slowing them down? I mean, I may have missed it but we don't know if FIL is struggling to get by as well, or is a multimillionaire.

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« Reply #233 on: April 26, 2018, 09:28:45 AM »
This thread is as good as and TV drama. Canít wait to hear what happens next with the Future Millionaires!

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« Reply #234 on: April 26, 2018, 11:36:25 AM »
Wow!!!  Crazy thread.  I feel bad about laughing about all the updates and the snarky replies.  I hope the OP is enjoying this vs. feeling worse about her sister and BIL. 

I feel like I have an advantage on the date as I just found this thread and have more info then many when they picked their dates.  I am going to throw out July 7th.  They are not going to want to beg for money or let the family know that their amazing venture is not going well on July 4th.  They will throw some hints to moneybags, but the big discussion is going to occur on Saturday the 7th.

The part that was confusing (most of it because nothing makes sense to a Mustachian mind), was that he has not passed the state test boards.  That also explains why he "can't" work.  Do you get a sense that he is cracking the books hard?  Do you get a sense if the school that they went to sets them up for failure.  IE teaching them cray cray beliefs vs. what is on the boards?  If the board give an example of someone wanting help for cancer.  Will they answer the board certified way that they would refer them or recommend that they go to see an Oncologist or whatever the main stream answer would be or would they fill in the blank to use a healing crystal and a spinal adjustment?   

I assume that these folks have no credit or bad credit.  Did the landlord require Father In Law to co-sign on the lease?  How long are they on the hook?  5 years?

My personality would be to have a sit down with my family member. I would have guilt if I saw this train wreck occurring and just sat their quietly.  After airing my concerns, I would not harp on it, but I would personally need to let them know that this is troubling on many fronts.

Thanks for keeping this thread updated.  It is very interesting if not a bit disturbing.  I hope that they don't lose his parents over this cluster.

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« Reply #235 on: April 26, 2018, 12:13:48 PM »
While they will undoubtedly become Future Millionaires [insert extreme eyeroll emoji]....

...they kind of already are living the 'Millionaire' lifestyle today...

vacations.... from leisure...
...a house and (loosely termed) 'work' space...that will open 'someday'...
...a lawnmower to save them all the time they aren't using...

All on someone else's income/savings.  Thanks pop!

I wonder if we only got a snippet earlier when the wife mentioned that God told her to just wait....

....for FIL's next check..... perhaps?


Should we call this lifestyle disconnect being a....Millionaide?




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« Reply #236 on: April 26, 2018, 02:24:52 PM »
This is far and away my favorite guilty pleasure thread.  Every time I see a new post, I want to grab the popcorn and settle in.  And it truly does just keep on giving.  Thank you, thank you.

Ok, as a reasonable human being, I do hope they get their shit together and grow up and donít get taken for a ride more than they already have.  But does it make me a bad person to want to enjoy the ride for as long as they continue to ostrich?
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« Reply #237 on: April 26, 2018, 02:36:57 PM »
I don't feel bad laughing. As long as they really are as oblivious as they seem, they're loving life right now.

When and if reality hits, I will feel bad for them. Best case scenario - reality will straighten them out and the hole they've dug won't ruin their financial life forever but I do want them to struggle for at least a bit to get back on their feet. Best case scenario seems unlikely though...

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« Reply #238 on: April 26, 2018, 04:32:29 PM »
This is my favorite thread too!  And of course it makes us bad people for laughing, but do we care?  I like to imagine someone in my family is on another board somewhere talking about my crazy financial decisions, and all of the other forum members think I'm a lunatic.

"Then she quit her job, and buys everything from yard sales and craigslist!  And when I asked what she planned to do if the economy goes belly up, she just shrugged her shoulders and said she guesses she'd have to find a way to earn money!  But when she was actually offered another job, did she take it?  No, she turned it down saying she didn't think she'd need the money.  And bear in mind this person is not a multi-millionaire.  Like AT ALL!  But somehow she's deluded herself into thinking she can live off of savings and real estate investments, because "frugality!"

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« Reply #239 on: April 26, 2018, 08:39:51 PM »
Back in my day, we used to call this # a pound sign... which incidentally gives new meaning to the "me too" movement.

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« Reply #240 on: April 26, 2018, 11:24:53 PM »
This is my favorite thread too!  And of course it makes us bad people for laughing, but do we care?  I like to imagine someone in my family is on another board somewhere talking about my crazy financial decisions, and all of the other forum members think I'm a lunatic.

"Then she quit her job, and buys everything from yard sales and craigslist!  And when I asked what she planned to do if the economy goes belly up, she just shrugged her shoulders and said she guesses she'd have to find a way to earn money!  But when she was actually offered another job, did she take it?  No, she turned it down saying she didn't think she'd need the money.  And bear in mind this person is not a multi-millionaire.  Like AT ALL!  But somehow she's deluded herself into thinking she can live off of savings and real estate investments, because "frugality!"

:-D
That is a very good analogy.

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« Reply #241 on: April 27, 2018, 12:16:03 AM »
This is my favorite thread too!  And of course it makes us bad people for laughing, but do we care?  I like to imagine someone in my family is on another board somewhere talking about my crazy financial decisions, and all of the other forum members think I'm a lunatic.

"Then she quit her job, and buys everything from yard sales and craigslist!  And when I asked what she planned to do if the economy goes belly up, she just shrugged her shoulders and said she guesses she'd have to find a way to earn money!  But when she was actually offered another job, did she take it?  No, she turned it down saying she didn't think she'd need the money.  And bear in mind this person is not a multi-millionaire.  Like AT ALL!  But somehow she's deluded herself into thinking she can live off of savings and real estate investments, because "frugality!"

:-D
That is a very good analogy.
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« Reply #242 on: April 27, 2018, 08:07:32 AM »
Sometimes these things work out. eighteen months ago I was exasperated by my BIL and SIL buying a house that was utterly extravagant and monstrous when compared with their incomes. What was particularly disorienting was my MIL--who'd always criticized my household for spending too much and irresponsibly taking on debt--suddenly seemed to think her son was his generation's Ben Graham for finding a zero percent financing deal on a lawn mower.

But I just checked zillow today, and they've already got about $40,000 of extra equity. That will pay for a lot of lawn mowers.

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« Reply #243 on: April 27, 2018, 08:10:16 AM »
Sometimes these things work out. eighteen months ago I was exasperated by my BIL and SIL buying a house that was utterly extravagant and monstrous when compared with their incomes. What was particularly disorienting was my MIL--who'd always criticized my household for spending too much and irresponsibly taking on debt--suddenly seemed to think her son was his generation's Ben Graham for finding a zero percent financing deal on a lawn mower.

But I just checked zillow today, and they've already got about $40,000 of extra equity. That will pay for a lot of lawn mowers.

Equity doesn't pay for anything unless they sell it though.

All it does is mean property taxes are higher.

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« Reply #244 on: April 27, 2018, 08:49:16 AM »
Sometimes these things work out. eighteen months ago I was exasperated by my BIL and SIL buying a house that was utterly extravagant and monstrous when compared with their incomes. What was particularly disorienting was my MIL--who'd always criticized my household for spending too much and irresponsibly taking on debt--suddenly seemed to think her son was his generation's Ben Graham for finding a zero percent financing deal on a lawn mower.

But I just checked zillow today, and they've already got about $40,000 of extra equity. That will pay for a lot of lawn mowers.

Equity doesn't pay for anything unless they sell it though.

All it does is mean property taxes are higher.

Unless of course they refinance to pull some of that equity out. That move was common during the last big housing boom because interest rates were low enough to make people think they could get a better ROI elsewhere. Second mortgages or lines of credit were common. The risk is that if housing values fall the heavily leveraged homeowner will be underwater. Also, there was a problem with appraisers artificially inflating the value of the home for refinancing purposes, which meant that people were borrowing against value that didn't exist.
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« Reply #245 on: April 27, 2018, 09:45:52 AM »
Sometimes these things work out. eighteen months ago I was exasperated by my BIL and SIL buying a house that was utterly extravagant and monstrous when compared with their incomes. What was particularly disorienting was my MIL--who'd always criticized my household for spending too much and irresponsibly taking on debt--suddenly seemed to think her son was his generation's Ben Graham for finding a zero percent financing deal on a lawn mower.

But I just checked zillow today, and they've already got about $40,000 of extra equity. That will pay for a lot of lawn mowers.

Equity doesn't pay for anything unless they sell it though.

All it does is mean property taxes are higher.

Also Zillow is extremely generous with the estimates. My house was up $15K the first year and with a partially finished basement now they went from $145k - $195k

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« Reply #246 on: April 27, 2018, 10:26:16 AM »
This is my favorite thread too!  And of course it makes us bad people for laughing, but do we care?  I like to imagine someone in my family is on another board somewhere talking about my crazy financial decisions, and all of the other forum members think I'm a lunatic.

"Then she quit her job, and buys everything from yard sales and craigslist!  And when I asked what she planned to do if the economy goes belly up, she just shrugged her shoulders and said she guesses she'd have to find a way to earn money!  But when she was actually offered another job, did she take it?  No, she turned it down saying she didn't think she'd need the money.  And bear in mind this person is not a multi-millionaire.  Like AT ALL!  But somehow she's deluded herself into thinking she can live off of savings and real estate investments, because "frugality!"

I love this so much.

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« Reply #247 on: April 27, 2018, 04:18:23 PM »
Unless of course they refinance to pull some of that equity out. That move was common during the last big housing boom because interest rates were low enough to make people think they could get a better ROI elsewhere spend more money.

FTFY.

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« Reply #248 on: April 27, 2018, 10:39:10 PM »
The sad thing is, they're going to live better lives than their frugal, responsible counterparts. They're basically acting like they're FIREd already, relaxed, healthy and enjoying life. The only difference is they'll get handouts from their parents, they'll have to pay less for liability if they get sued (because they'll have no savings) and they'll jump straight to medicaid in their old age, instead of slaving away for the "pride" of building their own stash and legacy like most of us do. I wish socialists would understand that it's always what happens when handouts are given.
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« Reply #249 on: April 28, 2018, 09:44:52 AM »

Unless of course they refinance to pull some of that equity out. That move was common during the last big housing boom because interest rates were low enough to make people think they could get a better ROI elsewhere.
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Ms Squeaker, you're being charitable again.  I reckon not one in a hundred of the people who ATMed their homes in the last RE bubble did it based on a rational calculation that they could get a better ROI elsewhere./*  Nah, they used it for down payments on water lice, road lice, and pervert wagons.  (Jet skis, ATVs, winnebagi.)  Livin' the dream, with the house an endless fountain of cash to dreckify the perpetual appreciation.  Livin' the dream, and learning how a margin cascade works.
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/* After all, it was true.  They could have.  And if they had, they'd still have the house now; their credit rating would gleam with the brilliance of a thousand suns instead of looking like something the septic tank pumper brings up; they' have big chunks of index funds; and financial reporters would be interviewing them about their genius and their stick-to-itiveness.